Thursday, 5 July 2012

Geek present...

OK, I once got my son a UK Limited Company as a present for his 13th birthday. He was doing business studies at school, and had to make up some letterheads and business card, so why not do it for real :-) I don't think the business studies teacher appreciated it, which was a shame.

He still has it, and was 18 just in time for the law to change requiring directors to be 18. Phew!

Now I am considering an (early) present for his birthday, but as a fellow geek he may appreciate it. I am thinking of getting him an IPv4 /24 PI, multi homed and routed to his house in Sweden... I have to get it early as RIPE will run out before his actual birthday I expect.

Is this just too geeky as a birthday present I wonder?

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  1. That's awesome! Go for it.

    While I try to convince my (forced, as only available) ISP, that IPv6 is /not/ just a *business* feature...
    That's in the country which is supposedly a 'communications' leader in the world (Finland).

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    1. Well, I just got my IPv6 PI as well, which is ubur geeky as we really are not going to run out of that.

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  2. Of course if he reads this blog he now knows what he's getting for his birthday :p

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    1. Yeh, sadly he does indeed read my blog... :-) I think this will happen tomorrow morning, so watch out for a new /24 in the IPv4 routing table...

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  3. This could easily turn into a 'What's the geekiest present you've been given' thread...

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  4. Now I'm wondering how much it costs to have a company that doesn't do very much.

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    1. £15/year for the annual return, and I think a small dormant accounts filing fee. All done on-line these days, very simple.

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  5. That's a pretty hefty birthday present, Out of interest what's the sort of cost of a /24 PI these days? - I appreciate you might not want to explain if your son reads this post of course.

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    1. He knows it is 50 euro a year plus making it multihomed.

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  6. This really does surprise me from you... I know you're very much an IPv6 fan, but are you seriously suggesting wasting a bit of the IPv4 space on a "birthday present"?!? That seems ridiculously wasteful and silly. Geek value yes, worth it value? No. Showing a responsible attitude to IPv4 depletion (and thus your reputation...) not so much.

    Going off at a slight tangent...

    I know you love IPv6 and we should all be using it and moving to it asap, which is good and lovely and all. But there are some boring realities - right now almost everything is IPv4, so as it stands, it is needed. The UK ISP community is still very limited in offering IPv6 (in a sane, working way). Yes, I could move to you, but then the main reason I pay my current provider (bandwidth) is an issue. You can't provide me with the sorts of bandwidth I need at a price I can stomach. It isn't necessarily about the cheapest service, just one that makes sense.

    The reality is that the providers offering the best usage allowances aren't the ones offering IPv6, so right now my choice is to forgo 6 for bandwidth.

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    1. Ooooh, but you know very well one more /24 will make fuck all difference - IPv4 is doomed. At the rate it is used work out what one more /24 is in days, or hours, or minutes of life for IPv4?

      Yes, we are moving to IPv6, and of course, he and I have IPv6. But purely practically it would be silly for anyone that can afford PI not to get it while they can. The worse that can happen is we give it back to the pool of remaining IPv4 some day. It is not a "waste", but a "use", as valid as the first /8's were. if not more so.

      If anyone will actually "use" their IP space it is the likes of myself and my son. In my case I am returning a /24 of PA to A&A to allocate to other users. All gets used sensibly and as per RIPE rules.

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