tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post2162555122980802407..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: Fake NewsRevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-21539462933357388182018-01-10T12:50:33.069+00:002018-01-10T12:50:33.069+00:00Missed a rather important word in my previous comm...Missed a rather important word in my previous comment!<br /><br />s/as if it was fact/as if it was verifiable fact/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-72705165258562733902018-01-10T12:47:07.602+00:002018-01-10T12:47:07.602+00:00I think the key difference is this.
Fake news is ...I think the key difference is this.<br /><br />Fake news is something that is written and published with the intention and expectation that readers will treat it exactly like true, verifiable, real news, typically for the "clickbaity" purposes of making money from ads/traffic/etc, or to deliberately spread misinformation. Readers do not know the difference between the fake news and legitimate news - or at least, if they do, the publisher of the fake news has failed at their objective.<br /><br />Whereas religious speech is made *in a particular context*, whether that context is inferred from the location such as a church or other building or place intended for delivering religious speech, or a specifically religious website etc., or simply a group of people who know each other meeting in one of their lounges. The important thing is that the people who go to listen are doing so voluntarily, willingly, and know full well that it's in context of a particular religion.<br /><br />While I'm Christian, I would be rather disturbed if, say, the BBC news started telling me something I might hear in a church sermon as if it was fact - just as disturbed as if they published any other religion's views in the same way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-29511483278145950522018-01-10T11:27:17.987+00:002018-01-10T11:27:17.987+00:00"the cover of religious freedom"
Sadly ..."the cover of religious freedom"<br /><br />Sadly the right of religious freedom in the UK and Europe is just as non-existent as the right to freedom of expression. Already there have been people investigated and punished for expressing certain religious beliefs, such as that homosexuality is a sin or that Halal butchery is inhumane.<br /><br />We might not necessarily agree with or wish to defend these sentiments, but in a country which actually valued freedom of religion they would be be legal to express.InfiniteDissenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00463076301051295104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-78740461975547472452018-01-09T20:31:47.661+00:002018-01-09T20:31:47.661+00:00You say "Religions make verifiably false stat...You say "Religions make verifiably false statements too." but to be fair they do this rather less often that many ISPs, Donald Trump or the May regime.Leading Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04325203371635127129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-26841037902206768762018-01-09T18:57:56.792+00:002018-01-09T18:57:56.792+00:00I thought Buddhism was a religion and not a belief...I thought Buddhism was a religion and not a belief in god? But do say which religions do not present "as fact" some unverifiable information, I am curious.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-46068170550320165842018-01-09T18:56:10.311+00:002018-01-09T18:56:10.311+00:00"Well it depends how you define "religio..."Well it depends how you define "religion" - Collins says <br /><br />"Religion is belief in a god or gods and the activities that are connected with this belief, such as praying or worshipping in a building such as a church or temple."<br /><br />...so using that, "I disagree" ... things presented as fact or not don' seem relevant to the definition of religion.Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00208816874733588171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-46491242591367948402018-01-09T18:46:44.618+00:002018-01-09T18:46:44.618+00:00Completely expected, but I did cite my experience ...Completely expected, but I did cite my experience of some religions that clearly do present "as fact", and the point that if "verifiable" it would not be a religion, do you disagree / counter that in any way?RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-17027596593080713232018-01-09T18:43:49.087+00:002018-01-09T18:43:49.087+00:00"Religion is about presenting unverifiable in..."Religion is about presenting unverifiable information as fact."<br /> Citation needed? :-)Vincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00208816874733588171noreply@blogger.com