tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post3908597937104203456..comments2024-03-27T17:30:11.247+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: How the cookie crumblesRevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-15851936367880145472011-05-27T11:35:02.846+01:002011-05-27T11:35:02.846+01:00Early versions of browsers used to ask for confirm...Early versions of browsers used to ask for confirmation before submitting form data, accepting cookies, turning HTTPS on/off... These things have gradually disappeared as they turned out to be ignored and blindly clicked-thru.<br /><br />What is this the rationale behind this legislation? Surely the cookie fallout is just an unintended side effect? What are they actually trying to achieve?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-21673032123309036712011-05-27T11:26:15.865+01:002011-05-27T11:26:15.865+01:00Also.. how do you store the refusal of consent. In...Also.. how do you store the refusal of consent. In a cookie? <br /><br />You don't, you just ask them every time, because you're not allowed to store the information.<br /><br />We had an interesting one with some Forums, and people clicking "Keep me logged in" and then "No I don't want to store cookies", then complaining to me that it wasn't keeping them logged in.<br /><br />if you ask the user if they want to store cookies, and they say no, the only reasonable thing to do is to ask again, as you don't know that they said no, eventually the user will get annoyed, and accept the cookie... I think this defeats the point, but is how I see it will be...Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15433960551945208728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-55916859834861616002011-05-27T10:45:45.800+01:002011-05-27T10:45:45.800+01:00All of the above seems to being read in the contex...All of the above seems to being read in the context of web browsers and cookies.<br /><br />But I don't see anything that restricts it to that - when you email me, the bulk of the headers in your message are probably not "strictly necessary" and you probably don't have explicit consent to be permitted to email me those headers.<br /><br />No matter that you can't retrieve them later, I think.Ben Cliffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14671623393202560568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-62433768029560614912011-05-27T09:28:32.157+01:002011-05-27T09:28:32.157+01:00> Note that www.legislation.gov.uk even serves ...> Note that www.legislation.gov.uk even serves two third party cookies from uk.sitestat.com <br /><br />Do you mean www.legislation.gov.uk serves two third party cookies? or do you mean that uk.sitestat.com services two cookies?Ben Cliffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14671623393202560568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-75946429016916182202011-05-26T13:16:24.350+01:002011-05-26T13:16:24.350+01:00No way browsers are going to switch off cookies by...No way browsers are going to switch off cookies by default. For a start they're mostly written in the US which isn't covered by this legislation... and secondly it'd break *loads* of stuff - and a lot of users simply wouldn't know how to switch them back on again... they's just say 'This browser has broken facebook' and downgrade/switch.<br /><br />So what's the legal position of server logs now.. User agent, refererer info.. even the GET line are all information provided by the browser.<br /><br /><br />Also.. how do you store the refusal of consent. In a cookie?Tony Hoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03697664015360179933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-59260740729550058212011-05-26T10:36:58.226+01:002011-05-26T10:36:58.226+01:00Can you get remedies besides damages? If you can&...Can you get remedies besides damages? If you can't say that you have experienced financial harm, perhaps you could still get an injunction requiring the ICO to stop setting cookies on the front page.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com