tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post6127229840870046909..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: Teaching us to suck eggs? BT?RevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-55357456858361250182017-01-18T20:08:42.541+00:002017-01-18T20:08:42.541+00:00Depends where the microwave is. If it's part ...Depends where the microwave is. If it's part of the Openreach jurisdiction, then all CPs who consume GEA will see the same issue. I believe this is the case here, so both BT Wholesale and TalkTalk interconnecting at the GEA serving exchange (not necessarily the actual local serving exchange, but probably a bigger one further upstream) will have identical transmission path to that specific cab.Charlie Boisseauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03514874899290709191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-55605999704842038122017-01-18T12:56:41.062+00:002017-01-18T12:56:41.062+00:00My experience when working for ISPs around the tur...My experience when working for ISPs around the turn of the century was that BT would fob you off to the lowest level they thought they could get away with. Usually that was a <i>little</i> higher than this incident, but hey, they've had a few years to improve. One of their phone bods insisted he was getting a ping return until I told him I was holding the other end of the cable in my other hand.<br /><br />The more of your time they waste with cheap phone droids, the higher the chance you'll go away and stop bothering them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-75810920668682532122017-01-18T10:03:59.282+00:002017-01-18T10:03:59.282+00:00Already have to do this in reverse on the other si...Already have to do this in reverse on the other side for a few customers, who despite their close proximity to FTTC cabinets, are not connected to them and BT refuse to route new cables despite clients offering to pay the cost. We then install Wireless gear on the property of friendly neighbours connected to the cabinet and send the Internet merrily on it's way over to our clients. There are countless areas around here where OpenReach could do this themselves and provide a Wireless Broadband solution with small masts erected in key locations saving the cost of FTTP deployments or getting properties either to far to benefit or on poor lines. Many community projects and some commercial offering are trying to pick up the slack and as good as they are, even they struggle to cover all the areas needed.ebreyithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108579642499534695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-73247428593162185182017-01-18T08:46:18.935+00:002017-01-18T08:46:18.935+00:00Nope, it really is to the PCP, like this:
http://...Nope, it really is to the PCP, like this:<br /><br />http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/02/bt-trials-wireless-cabinet-vdsl-broadband-village-westow.html<br /><br />That's quite innovative in a way!rtho782https://www.blogger.com/profile/02052870855136709228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-78358818949525445382017-01-17T18:09:12.311+00:002017-01-17T18:09:12.311+00:00I think TT would work the same as I expect it is t...I think TT would work the same as I expect it is the microwave link that is the issue. TT would see as just FTTC.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-34773328093459299062017-01-17T16:53:07.787+00:002017-01-17T16:53:07.787+00:00Oddly enough I had a similar issue myself which tu...Oddly enough I had a similar issue myself which turned out to be an issue with my VDSL modem. However AAISP support suggested a router reboot long before things had escalated to this level which got my line back to its normal speedy self. <br /><br />Trying to use this line would be an absolute nightmare based on my experience. my 80/20 FTTC line was getting transfer rates that made ADSL1 look good. ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12182134755820553960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-90977566527719234802017-01-17T13:51:39.378+00:002017-01-17T13:51:39.378+00:00I'm guessing TalkTalk backhaul is not an optio...I'm guessing TalkTalk backhaul is not an option for this customer given the microwave link to the cabinet.Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-34172368531159776292017-01-17T09:43:56.704+00:002017-01-17T09:43:56.704+00:00It'll get fun when G.fast is also GEA-FTTC...It'll get fun when G.fast is also GEA-FTTC...Simon Farnsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190608047563530091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-35573023978095752252017-01-16T22:15:52.478+00:002017-01-16T22:15:52.478+00:00It has been apparent in Adrian's previous post...It has been apparent in Adrian's previous posts that quite often AAISP are talking to support personnel who are working an "end user" level not "ISP" level and who have real difficulty with the fact that LCP echo request logs predominantly test the link between the customer CPE and the ISP and are not affected by packet loss deeper in the Internet. <br /><br />OK, strictly it checks to the PPPOE endpoint so includes a bit of the customer network.<br /><br />I am not sure whether this is because BT is cheapskate or incompetent but suspect both are part of the answer.<br />nowtotallyhackedoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06687184924812362495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-23536488951616565712017-01-16T22:12:56.987+00:002017-01-16T22:12:56.987+00:00Strictly speaking, is it not microwave to the exch...Strictly speaking, is it not microwave to the exchange, and fibre to the cabinet?<br /><br />Or is there an actual microwave transceiver stuck on the side of their PCP?rtho782https://www.blogger.com/profile/02052870855136709228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-88551475182958476452017-01-16T20:43:50.826+00:002017-01-16T20:43:50.826+00:00What the...!?! I would have never believed BT'...What the...!?! I would have never believed BT's level of technical competence and customer service on a wholesale level between isp's could even come close to when they're dealing with residential customers, until I saw this. Just shocking.<br /><br />It would be quite interesting to see what happened if anyone took BT to court over FTTC being used to describe the speed as.opposed to how the service was actually delivered (or not as the case may be)...Geekypenguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04249663681946505777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-39873330648615790892017-01-16T17:25:17.727+00:002017-01-16T17:25:17.727+00:00Indeed, though we sell as VDSL (which it is) rathe...Indeed, though we sell as VDSL (which it is) rather than FTTC, generally, for this very reason.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-48413445614452840062017-01-16T17:11:07.154+00:002017-01-16T17:11:07.154+00:00"Microwave to the cabinet" sold as "..."Microwave to the cabinet" sold as "Fibre to the cabinet" ?<br /><br />How would you stand legally if your customer (who you are contracted to provide FTTC to) chooses to cease their service because the provisioned service is *not* what they ordered from A&A and *not* what A&A ordered from BT ?Terry F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13969846575454712191noreply@blogger.com