tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post6506328914830279495..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: Why do Openreach lie?RevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-58874216799190993292018-03-12T14:26:13.121+00:002018-03-12T14:26:13.121+00:00As far as I understand, that Openreach Ltd (which ...As far as I understand, that Openreach Ltd (which suspended the Openreach Ltd I owned just before it) is not the one that runs the phone network. I believe it is still British Telecommunications plc (1800000) trading as Openreach, at least for now.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-61116536465103106572018-03-12T14:21:41.660+00:002018-03-12T14:21:41.660+00:00Actually, Openreach Limited was incorporated in Ma...Actually, Openreach Limited was incorporated in March 2017, and that company changed its registered office address in December 2017, but the company and its directors in default are still committing a criminal offence contrary to Regulation 28 of The Company, Limited Liability Partnership and Business (Names and Trading Disclosures) Regulations 2015, made under Sections 82 to 85 of the Companies Act 2006.<br /><br />The problem is that no-one, not Companies House, nor Trading Standards, nor the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS), is actually responsible for enforcing these Regulations, so of course the likes of Openreach and BT just ignore it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-19070563269800455332017-08-13T22:35:54.117+01:002017-08-13T22:35:54.117+01:00And also lawyers don't interpret laws, that...And also lawyers don't interpret laws, that's what the courts/judges do.Carl Johnstonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-89889145487193202252017-08-12T06:27:45.185+01:002017-08-12T06:27:45.185+01:00Indeed, but this specific lie is extra special as ...Indeed, but this specific lie is extra special as it would still be a lie if Openreach were indeed separate. They are claiming they are not a communications provider which is wrong either way.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-27612648581388042632017-08-11T23:27:26.633+01:002017-08-11T23:27:26.633+01:00Why do Openreach lie to you? Their people have be...Why do Openreach lie to you? Their people have been brainwashed by management PR talk. Which is also known as "BS". Not one of them has done their own research or Google searches into the people they are working for. Management has told them "Openreach and BT are now separate. No link between our two companies. Make sure you say that in response to every customer complaint." and they have believed it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-20709083097820300002017-08-11T23:23:42.479+01:002017-08-11T23:23:42.479+01:00I've had Spitfire - a supposedly clued-up outf...I've had Spitfire - a supposedly clued-up outfit - trying to tell me that Openreach is nothing to do with BT and one cannot control the other. Referred them to Companies House records and two hours later they admitted that Openreach is merely a department or trading name of BT. And my whinge about BT blaming Openreach or vice versa got resolved immediately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-58619307379895542652017-08-11T20:39:13.570+01:002017-08-11T20:39:13.570+01:00> Lawyers make the laws
If only... *Politician...> Lawyers make the laws<br /><br />If only... *Politicians* make the laws.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427000118752159232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-51878929589344676472017-08-11T19:08:40.312+01:002017-08-11T19:08:40.312+01:00What SimonF - said, lawyers making themselves into...What SimonF - said, lawyers making themselves into the high priesthood, the only ones who can interpret the sacred texts. Maybe all laws ought to be required to pass an intelligibility test, that an educated reasonable non-specialist British person should be able to successfully interpret them and make decisions correctly. If they fail, they go back for rework. Laws that are incomprehensible are hidden bear traps/landmines or whatever the cliché analogy might be, just dishonest. If only we had a constitution.Cecil Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16477035597238561739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-82859733248366035692017-08-11T16:53:57.348+01:002017-08-11T16:53:57.348+01:00When a law is so vague that even top industry expe...When a law is so vague that even top industry experts can't agree what it means it is, almost by definition, useless.<br /><br />Trouble is, Lawyers make the laws and it in their best interest that only Lawyers are allowed to interpret the laws.<br /><br />SimonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03711861360301638111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-62343869359779460522017-08-11T13:51:18.243+01:002017-08-11T13:51:18.243+01:00The network is the wires and fibres. It actually g...The network is the wires and fibres. It actually gets interesting when you talk of VoIp services, as they are "over the top". I suspect, if done right, many VoIP providers could fall totally outside OFCOM remit and requirements of a CP - something OFCOM would not like, but then it is not fundamentally different to email or web pages, which we accept are outside such scope with no problem.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-25129923459024335072017-08-11T13:51:01.990+01:002017-08-11T13:51:01.990+01:00The mains wiring one is interesting - read the act...The mains wiring one is interesting - read the act yourself and try and work it out :-)RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-74945567027591635912017-08-11T13:41:08.923+01:002017-08-11T13:41:08.923+01:00Is a network the physical wires or the use of them...Is a network the physical wires or the use of them to transmit data in a structured way?<br /><br />Is dark fibre a network? Or fibre that transmits only noise? How about an electrician who installs mains wiring that subsequently has powerline tech installed?Matthew Wilkeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510708328893867970noreply@blogger.com