tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post6559714795857531515..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: Blizzard withdrawing support for IPv6?RevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-42754956346216328372016-07-27T14:09:52.334+01:002016-07-27T14:09:52.334+01:00To be honest, I think this is the first time I hav...To be honest, I think this is the first time I have had someone struggling this badly. We have a web config to save you from the XML, obviously. We do courses, but they should not be necessary for some basic things. Feel free to email specific questions on what you need to set up the support email.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-30469754546274146662016-07-27T14:07:12.928+01:002016-07-27T14:07:12.928+01:00I tried reading the firebick manual. There's a...I tried reading the firebick manual. There's an awful lot of it, and it dives straight in at quite a technical level. If I ever have a spare fortnight I might sit down and try to read the manual again. The fact that it does everything in xml config doesn't help, I write software in C for a living but I have developed an allergy to xml it's so excessively uncessarily complicated for most purposes.<br /><br />But I shouldn't need the manual for most of what I am trying to do surely? (maybe for the port mappings). On the Zyxel 1312 I managed to set up and test everying I want without once looking at the documentation, because the user interfac is sufficiently intuitive.Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-50233570324501118102016-07-27T11:54:23.126+01:002016-07-27T11:54:23.126+01:00That attitude will mean IPv6 never gets deployed. ...That attitude will mean IPv6 never gets deployed. It is new, nobody is using it, so we won't do it... Means nobody does it. Blizzard took part in World IPv6 Launch in 2012 - that is FOUR YEARS AGO. So it is not even "new" to Blizzard.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-85157145797116735192016-07-27T11:45:45.575+01:002016-07-27T11:45:45.575+01:00IPv6 is still absent on the majority of UK ISPs, i...IPv6 is still absent on the majority of UK ISPs, it is still not offered on many leased lines and other expensive business grade connections, and it is not available at quite a few co-lo facilities where you used shared connectivity.<br /><br />IPv6 might not be new, but adoption rate is still low.The Backup Exec Goathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532538047698437455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-71706226144865956842016-07-27T10:35:54.176+01:002016-07-27T10:35:54.176+01:00@owen - if you've got a FB2700 sitting around ...@owen - if you've got a FB2700 sitting around doing nothing, I'll have it, as my loaned firebrick was sent back recently. :(<br /><br />I agree though, configuration of the Firebrick is highly complex, even for a geek and it takes a lot of meddling before you get it working properly. IPv4 port forwarding stumped me for a while._thalamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18195290566480282838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-42784296965284964372016-07-27T08:53:31.850+01:002016-07-27T08:53:31.850+01:00Sounds like you may need a bit of help - the ports...Sounds like you may need a bit of help - the ports can be grouped as a switch in the port grouping section under interfaces. The DNS servers can be manually configured under setup/system services, and picking up external DNS by DHCP or PPP can be disabled in the interface and PPPoE config. You can see DNS servers in use under status menu. Have you considered reading the manual at all, that may help with some of these basic things.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-12277284976671233292016-07-27T01:27:18.955+01:002016-07-27T01:27:18.955+01:00With regard to my FB2700 I can't configure, my...With regard to my FB2700 I can't configure, my setup isn't entirely vanilla domestic user. I have a dozen devices all with fixed IPs in the DHCP, which seems to need a separate DHCP server entity for each device on firebrick. I can only get one ethernet port to work, I seem to need to duplicate all the setup for the network on the other two LAN ports. I have my own DNS server (Raspberry Pi running dnsmasq) but I can't get the firebrick to use it. I haven't even got as far as looking into the NAT port mappings and IPv6 firewall entries for my server. Oh yes and none of my systems (Windows and iOS) like the IPv6 router advertisements the firebrick is sending, so IPv6 wasn't working for anything. The list of things that weren't working just made me give up frankly. It was much easier setting all this up on the Zyxel 1312, and I managed it on the TG582n though that did require use of the CLI. The web gui on the firebrick seems designed to confuse people, there are so many options it takes ages to work out which one you want. The manual is no help, because it's a reference manual which I'm sure will be great if I ever get to grips with it but is little use as a beginners introduction. So there my firebrick sits, taunting me. I'm struggling to summon the enthusiasm to try again and the benefit at the moment is very small (everything works on the Zyxel except IPv6).<br /><br />My other Zyxel 1312 as a VDSL bridge modem is working fine for me. I'm on FTTC 80/20 now, and I'm getting 79.6/19.9 so basically hitting the line cap. Others claim it's a bad VDSL modem, I might be able to tell if the 80/20 caps were lifted. I'm about 110m from the cabinet. It would be nice to have some FTTC stats though, neither the Zyxel as a bridge modem nor the BT line aaisp control pages tell me anything. I don't know my SNRs, or whether interleaving is on or off, what the error rate is, nothing. It's a real step backwards compared to how much I could find out about my TT ADSL line (it was rubbish, but I knew exactly how rubbish and in what way).Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-30968642064056817562016-07-27T01:11:20.417+01:002016-07-27T01:11:20.417+01:00I had a couple of TG582n from aaisp before the Zyx...I had a couple of TG582n from aaisp before the Zyxel. They were awful. I was on a really long ADSL line with lots of noise, and speed was awful. I switched to an ADSL bridge modem (older Zyxel model) with the TG582n running as a PPPOE router and this nearly doubled my ADSL speed. Then I had to put in a mains timeswitch to power cycle the TG582n once a day because it kept locking up under heavy load (I run a server). The one thing I can say for the TG582n is the IPv6 worked as reliably as any other part of it. Eventually I'd had enough of lockups and got a Zyxel 1312 PPPOE router as a replacement, which is bliss reliability wise except for the IPv6.Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-3161172683654108522016-07-27T01:01:38.619+01:002016-07-27T01:01:38.619+01:00Isn't there some public domain replacement sof...Isn't there some public domain replacement software for some routers? DGTeam seems to be one but there were others I believe.Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-53696024728291879852016-07-26T21:44:52.233+01:002016-07-26T21:44:52.233+01:00It's a pity that Openreach copped out of provi...It's a pity that Openreach copped out of providing modems, because you would have a lot more choice if you could just provide a router with an eWAN port.<br /><br />However, that isn't where we are now unfortunately, seeing as Openreach have washed their hands of providing CPE. <br /><br />I've had mixed experience with routers - the most positive I've had is with ASUS, although I'm not sure if their firmware is remotely configurable, but the hardware is good.<br /><br />I had good success with Billion devices too, and they do the 8800NL which is a vDSL router which would be a better router than the 1312 in my opinion and is probably around the same price bracket (not sure how much you guys pay for the ZyXEL though). Other than that, TP-LINK seems to flood the market at the low end, but most of that is junk.<br /><br />Maybe you should consider developing or customising your own router? Or at least your own firmware that can be put on a commodity router so it turns it into something useful rather than a buggy bag of crap. If you pick a decent base model all the source will be available anyway._thalamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18195290566480282838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-81811484839865363742016-07-26T19:52:38.898+01:002016-07-26T19:52:38.898+01:00Technically there are ways but nothing like commer...Technically there are ways but nothing like commercially, sadly.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-34665635672371842452016-07-26T19:49:18.843+01:002016-07-26T19:49:18.843+01:00Can't argue with that sort of synergy. Works w...Can't argue with that sort of synergy. Works well to create solutions presented by your enterprise clients.<br /><br />Would it be hard to add ADSL modem and Wi-Fi into a basic/mini firebrick model to compete with the zyxel.ebreyithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108579642499534695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-84923905548439044152016-07-26T19:46:18.409+01:002016-07-26T19:46:18.409+01:00For FTTP Mikrotik now do a gpon sfp transceiver th...For FTTP Mikrotik now do a gpon sfp transceiver that can go in their new dual band 5 port routers for a single box ish solutionebreyithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108579642499534695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-35086784646912368632016-07-26T19:34:10.474+01:002016-07-26T19:34:10.474+01:00Ah, mainly that I wrote ever line of networking co...Ah, mainly that I wrote ever line of networking code in the FireBrick from scratch. That gives me some bias, sorry.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-22522853048179872772016-07-26T19:33:03.280+01:002016-07-26T19:33:03.280+01:00What is it that you like or prefer about the fireb...What is it that you like or prefer about the firebrick compared to alternatives. I always find other peoples choices on technical matters an insightful and informative perspectiveebreyithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108579642499534695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-40563191142874054922016-07-26T19:14:19.155+01:002016-07-26T19:14:19.155+01:00I agree - I would go for bridging modem and a Fire...I agree - I would go for bridging modem and a FireBrick and unify APs personally, but customers do like one box solutions. They are not as good or as flexible but for like 90% of even our customers they do well enough. But out customers can use what they like, that is the point.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-18235706481686792972016-07-26T19:11:38.990+01:002016-07-26T19:11:38.990+01:00I do like the elegance of a one box solution for s...I do like the elegance of a one box solution for simple setups. For more elaborate tinkerers, soho and business solutions I prefer a twin box solution with a modem maintaining high uptimes on the xDSL connection, leaving the router free to change config, upgrade or reboot as needed. It's not for every one though and does have its cost and complexity considerations to account for.<br /><br />I've never been a fan of the technicolour boxes, I've seen a few run quite hot and also grind to a halt or lock up under heavy load.<br /><br />Even if not a fritzbox, adding another device to your range with built in VoIP might be a nice option for some with the knowledge that you could help support it.ebreyithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00108579642499534695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-42250340918721815332016-07-26T19:03:03.235+01:002016-07-26T19:03:03.235+01:00The TG582n is in fact incredibly capable. I believ...The TG582n is in fact incredibly capable. I believe it can connect to and possibly host VPNs, it can certainly have static routes. It can, as far as I remember, have two different networks on the WAN and route one to X number of LAN ports and the other to X other LAN ports.<br />Sadly - all of this is in pretty badly documented CLI and config script.<br /><br />I expect if you had complicated needs you could manage it with a Technicolor but would need to either have their documentation or spend a lot of time experimenting.1https://www.blogger.com/profile/04266030296611845502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-4701129493633364692016-07-26T18:00:20.587+01:002016-07-26T18:00:20.587+01:00Well I've been using the Technicolor TG582n th...Well I've been using the Technicolor TG582n that you supplied for free on joining in March 2014. It seems to have no issues coping with IPv6 nor has it caused me any other problems. Why not revert to the TG582n if the ZyXEL is not working properly, or at least offer as an alternative? I know some people think it's crap but those people tend to have more technically complex needs. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10823387395371201608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-85040403818241328602016-07-26T16:45:15.336+01:002016-07-26T16:45:15.336+01:00Quite, at present the box works ADSL and VDSL so u...Quite, at present the box works ADSL and VDSL so upgrades are easy, but BT modems are hard to come by!RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-73940583486790234572016-07-26T16:41:17.574+01:002016-07-26T16:41:17.574+01:00I'd second the recommendation of the Mikrotik ...I'd second the recommendation of the Mikrotik products. For less than the retail price of the existing Zyxel box, you could supply a DLink ADSL modem and a Mikrotik 5-port+WiFi. The firmware within them is on a totally different planet from any domestic ADSL router. Just a pity that (AFAICS) they don't have a version which can do ADSL.<br /><br />Of course, for a FTTC installation, it would need just the one Mikrotik box to go with the BT modem.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17555396036856701009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-3547629540462933892016-07-26T16:37:03.733+01:002016-07-26T16:37:03.733+01:00"since IPv6 is relatively new"
IPv6 des..."since IPv6 is relatively new"<br /><br />IPv6 design and development started in 1994, early implementations were around 2000.<br /><br />World of Warcraft origins also started in 1994 with Warcraft: Orcs & Humans and WOW itself in 2004.<br /><br />Perhaps you could point out to them that the Warcraft series is also "relatively new"!jelvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06330649794336059930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-26464633054610217292016-07-26T13:57:27.300+01:002016-07-26T13:57:27.300+01:00Now that surprises me! Basically PPPoE config work...Now that surprises me! Basically PPPoE config works out of the box with no set up, or possible setting a username and password. Very easy to add some basic things from there. If you need, we can probably help you.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-2720608559056898442016-07-26T13:52:02.456+01:002016-07-26T13:52:02.456+01:00RevK is correct, most customers want a single broa...RevK is correct, most customers want a single broadband box that does everything (modem, router, wifi).Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-35794619615976737412016-07-26T13:51:08.453+01:002016-07-26T13:51:08.453+01:00I bought an FB2700 several months ago to replace m...I bought an FB2700 several months ago to replace my Zyxel router (and I already have a second Zyxel in use as a PPPOE modem). Unfortunately I've run into a different problem there, the FB2700 is so complicated to configure and setup that I simply haven't had time to do it. I've spent about 6 hours on it, which ought to be more than enough to replicate a fairly simple home setup. But I suspect the firebrick design assumes you know what you're doing and assumes you have complex needs, which probably means simply configs are harder to organise than in a router with less flexibility.Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.com