tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post8024171618247291842..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: The phone line is dead?RevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-60113263200991424482013-01-26T23:34:33.732+00:002013-01-26T23:34:33.732+00:00#3 and #5, I will use it for 0800 and 0845 calls. ...#3 and #5, I will use it for 0800 and 0845 calls. But ofcom soon will be making 0800 free on mobiles making #5 for me quite rare. In my opinion landlines are much less competitive than mobiles now days, a PAYG mobile has no line rental at all and my contract mobile sim has a deal no landline provider could ever match. Plus the fact your mobile can be used anywhere, whilst the landline is just where the landline is.chrcolukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01922782032112968876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-77133716671843237122013-01-13T12:05:05.656+00:002013-01-13T12:05:05.656+00:00#2 and #5. One dedicated line for broadband. On th...#2 and #5. One dedicated line for broadband. On the other line I still enjoy a very good bundle with free national and a generous quota of international calls. Calls from abroad to a landline may be somewhat cheaper than to a mobile and I seem to keep changing my mobile number so it makes it easier for friends to find me. Mobile coverage can also be a problem, when I was on Vodafone I frequently could use the phone to take photos of Canary Wharf but not to make or receive calls. <br />Wernerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10407689297509059600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-92015482740685298982013-01-12T18:48:45.967+00:002013-01-12T18:48:45.967+00:00I'd say #2 as I don't have any need for a ...I'd say #2 as I don't have any need for a landline as mobile works fine for me and I make very few calls (have never liked being on the phone and only use it if I have to). I have a "local" aaisp voip landline number which diverts to my mobile if I ever have go give someone a contact number. bolistonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216205511570366092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-1632648096794991762013-01-12T18:36:28.860+00:002013-01-12T18:36:28.860+00:00Pretty sure you can make "free" calls fr...Pretty sure you can make "free" calls from an AAISP line, as far as I'm aware they only bar chargeable calls, so this should allow 999 to be dialled as it's "free"bolistonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216205511570366092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-47306249088326676352013-01-12T18:05:57.018+00:002013-01-12T18:05:57.018+00:00Number 5 for me too.
I have phones in most rooms...Number 5 for me too. <br /><br />I have phones in most rooms of the house (and am thinking of putting a point in the loo) so can be pretty sure of hearing them ring, unlike the feeble mobile which might well be in another room and thus unheard. No, I don't keep it about my person all the time.<br /><br />The sound quality is so much better as well. Its bad enough when talking from a landline to a mobile, but mobile to mobile is often head-bangingly awful.<br /><br />The mobile has its place, for example if my wife wants to ask me to bring stuff back from the allotment.<br /><br />However I am 70 and therefore probably more representative of old farts rather than telephone users in general.<br /><br />hhmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11777775894007619861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-12805385775174586552013-01-12T13:50:43.088+00:002013-01-12T13:50:43.088+00:00Definitely number 5. I have a mobile phone but on...Definitely number 5. I have a mobile phone but only use it for emergencies, and as a reminder-diary! It's PAYG and I put £5 on it several months ago and at least half of it is still on there. It narks me to have to use it once in a while so I don't lose the balance.<br /><br />I *hate* using mobile phones, even the shortest dropout really annoys me, especially if I'm having a technical discussion. Also, when did they decide that a flat plate is a suitable way to transfer sound to the ear? I use a "proper" phone where the earpiece cuts out extraneous sound - it's so much less stress when you can hear the other person clearly.<br /><br />Also, I don't like the idea of all that RF anergy close to some of my important organs! When I got my first mobile (an "Orange Nokia") I would get a pain in my right eye if I used the phone on that side - for some reason it was OK if I held the phone to my left ear. Worrying!<br /><br />I'm not a luddite - I believe in using the most appropriate technology for the job, and phone lines weren't broke, so didn't need fixing. The only thing wrong is the exhorbitant costs BT charge these days. I really should change to another suppier, but I'm staying on a copper pair for voice calls as long as possible.<br />- HowardHDRWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09148633895717850549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-87479288650675792522013-01-11T21:07:02.733+00:002013-01-11T21:07:02.733+00:00I only tend to use mine for 0870/0845 and 0800 as ...I only tend to use mine for 0870/0845 and 0800 as these tend to be expensive from the mobile.<br /><br />otherwise have stupid amounts of mobile minutes included with my mobile plan, only reason I'm not on a cheaper plan is because I use a fair bit of mobile data.Dragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00022860954210501938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-90420575343998724992013-01-11T15:42:43.865+00:002013-01-11T15:42:43.865+00:00Still got a telephone line into the house. It han...Still got a telephone line into the house. It handles most outgoing calls that my wife makes but its real functions as far as I'm concerned are for the two sky boxes to plug into and as part of the contingency plan. That 'phone line will still work when the power goes out - that's why there's still one corded handset plugged into it. If that line goes down we have mobiles and a VoIP line (that one's there because I can).Starkickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13912104970994162543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-58024494265420076412013-01-11T12:45:26.630+00:002013-01-11T12:45:26.630+00:00What annoys me is that VM do not make it clear tha...What annoys me is that VM do not make it clear that the prices they advertise for their bundles do not include the required charge for a VM phone line. I am moving house soon. The house is already cabled, but if I want to get cable broadband only they will charge a 50 quid installation fee. If I get a phone line as well the fee is waived. (note this will be a new contract, not moving an existing one).Chaz6https://www.blogger.com/profile/01608429060172185449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-68448687426335601072013-01-11T09:41:54.670+00:002013-01-11T09:41:54.670+00:00We have a BT phone line and use it for calls (exce...We have a BT phone line and use it for calls (except to mobile phones).<br /><br />Reasons:<br /><br />Mobile phone signal here is lacking and only works in a few places in the house.<br /><br />The battery in the DECT handsets seems to last forever.<br /><br />Call quality is much better<br /><br />"It just works"Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10021621329177687470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-31658268632258515502013-01-11T09:41:26.287+00:002013-01-11T09:41:26.287+00:00#4 mostly, still receiving on #5. Mobiles are for ...#4 mostly, still receiving on #5. Mobiles are for data mostly/only, voice quality far too low for any professional or long conversation. Just good enough for short conversations while mobile.<br />Wouldn't mind getting rid of copper for proper fiber, but BT insist 20CN is the way to go for me :-(Brexit factshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09499046210014193575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-49662017129106170602013-01-11T09:12:53.499+00:002013-01-11T09:12:53.499+00:00or do they all have iPhones on silly contracts? Th...or do they all have iPhones on silly contracts? That seems to be pretty common:<br /><br />"I have no money. Ooh the new iPhone is out. I'll just pay £30 a month for that."<br /><br /><br /><br />Fuzzycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02901559831822343219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-4781702164320574682013-01-10T22:25:10.051+00:002013-01-10T22:25:10.051+00:00I have a BT phone line, but don't actually hav...I have a BT phone line, but don't actually have an analogue phone to plug into it.0rynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15253596186708672382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-27327582526227116092013-01-10T20:21:38.917+00:002013-01-10T20:21:38.917+00:00That wouldn't be Cris would it? I had a pair o...That wouldn't be Cris would it? I had a pair of 'broadband only' phone lines from A&A, they still had a dial tone and, ISTR, numbers that you could still ring from an ordinary phone or mobile. You just couldn't dial out, I always wondered if you could call 999 on them but never had cause to find out.<br /><br />One of the lines was up at a transmitter site, so I used the VoIP feature of the DrayTek modem/router to allow me to call out on an A&A VoIP account or direct to the other line back at the office. It was the Tx 'hotline' as you only needed to pick the phone up and press '1'.... followed by the '#' sign.<br /><br />I'm a #3 and in almost the same situation as yourself (it's either scammers or parents who call the land line). The most useful thing I did was get caller ID put on the land line, now we can see at a glance if it's worth picking up or not. I keep thinking about getting one of those boxes that just hangs the line up if it sees calls from withheld or international callers.<br /><br />My parents used to call my land line from theirs, but they almost always seem to call mobile to mobile now, most likely because they have a ludicrous amount of free minutes and texts on their phones.AndyMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09638566026140463084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-35996418400053673592013-01-10T18:52:06.019+00:002013-01-10T18:52:06.019+00:00I'm really number 2 - I do call my mum once a ...I'm really number 2 - I do call my mum once a week on the landline... because I get it "free". Otherwise I get incoming calls for double glazing, loft insulation, etc. I would do without easily if not for the broadband - in fact when I lived in Farnborough I only had cable broadband and no phone (but still had a phone number?). I have VoIP which I very rarely use, with mobile for the rest.John Haineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13127752688227850579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-9284481474522263472013-01-10T15:40:17.226+00:002013-01-10T15:40:17.226+00:00If I didn't work from home I'd be a #2 (be...If I didn't work from home I'd be a #2 (because we're all antisocial bas****s in this house :)), but because I work from home I'm a #5The Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04561063207545406257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-41972942310728484222013-01-10T15:10:48.470+00:002013-01-10T15:10:48.470+00:00And that 2/3 figure is from an audience of people ...And that 2/3 figure is from an audience of people who are, presumably, au fait with the Internet and other modern things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-85963020493904103652013-01-10T14:20:05.014+00:002013-01-10T14:20:05.014+00:00I would also add my Sister's situation which i...I would also add my Sister's situation which is rather different.<br /><br />When they moved into their current house, the house is that far from the Warrington exchange that speeds would be sub 500k. Since they both have mobiles and there is no cable option, they didn't bother with a landline, but used a 3G service until a local WiFi provider Vispa came on line.Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249692867869614591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-66491784733514824412013-01-10T13:58:12.267+00:002013-01-10T13:58:12.267+00:00I'm basically a #1. Technically we have a (Vir...I'm basically a #1. Technically we have a (Virgin) phone line, but the phone that was plugged into it broke months ago and I've never felt the need to replace it...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07465728195692896413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-59874316279444474352013-01-10T13:56:58.381+00:002013-01-10T13:56:58.381+00:00I'm basically #1. Technically we have a (Virgi...I'm basically #1. Technically we have a (Virgin) phone line, but the cordless phone that's plugged into it stopped working and I've not felt any particular need to replace it...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07465728195692896413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-49232367594363202642013-01-10T13:56:40.000+00:002013-01-10T13:56:40.000+00:00But are these home owners (or renters), or are the...But are these home owners (or renters), or are they living in somebody else's house?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-82488712797361689122013-01-10T13:54:08.122+00:002013-01-10T13:54:08.122+00:00I asked on my journal, and got dozens of responses...I asked on my journal, and got dozens of responses to a poll:<br />http://andrewducker.livejournal.com/2848829.html<br /><br />So far, 2/3 of them have a landline that gets used for phone calls. 42% of them use the landline for the majority of their home phone calls.Andrew Duckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06566110014858668221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-87317645347570268512013-01-10T13:48:37.333+00:002013-01-10T13:48:37.333+00:00No, but I know people who are not geeks and just u...No, but I know people who are not geeks and just use mobiles because they have no money, for example!RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-55277775600397759342013-01-10T13:21:20.199+00:002013-01-10T13:21:20.199+00:00I think there is a danger of assuming everybody el...I think there is a danger of assuming everybody else is in the same box you are.<br /><br />Stating "I wonder if phone lines are becoming just a legacy thing now. I don't even have copper pairs to my house." is a non sequitur - you own an ISP, it is entirely reasonable for you to have fibre into your house. Are you really suggesting that Joe Public could do the same?<br /><br />Outside my circle of geek friends, I can't think of a single person I know who doesn't have (and still use) a landline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-73937591256295255632013-01-10T13:15:40.477+00:002013-01-10T13:15:40.477+00:00I'm a 5.I'm a 5.ContextSwitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02055385944215236099noreply@blogger.com