tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post3356056125352855652..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: Making Tax DigitalRevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-60637603635259364842018-12-04T14:09:13.521+00:002018-12-04T14:09:13.521+00:00doh … I must have glazed over in the Dutch section...doh … I must have glazed over in the Dutch section … ;-)Dominic Battyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909432821077129140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-72390975309505716582018-12-03T15:20:37.288+00:002018-12-03T15:20:37.288+00:00Yeh - last line of my post :-)Yeh - last line of my post :-)RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-22840239111227914022018-12-03T15:19:42.075+00:002018-12-03T15:19:42.075+00:00This might be useful information to you. We have ...This might be useful information to you. We have been advised that there are updates to the HMRC platform from 4th Dec that will allow business trading with the EU to join the pilot. We are currently awaiting for this update to be able to test the next phase of our dev. Cheers, Dom.Dominic Battyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909432821077129140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-3691373661660252462018-12-03T11:31:03.299+00:002018-12-03T11:31:03.299+00:00It'll just be a clumsily worded way of saying ...It'll just be a clumsily worded way of saying "we don't support VAT MOSS". As much as you're trading with an entity in the EU, you're not trading under EU "supervision".<br /><br />As entities in this country, I believe (happy to be corrected) that you don't follow EU rules and regulations; they are written into UK law and enforced by the UK.<br /><br />As a side, MTD is a colossal mess!Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04311149395810537121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-16463154926216673882018-12-02T14:43:03.881+00:002018-12-02T14:43:03.881+00:00>>>You admit you are talking about a diff...>>>You admit you are talking about a different area of EU law, and then 'based on that',reach a particular conclusion. <br /><br />But its still based on the same principles. Issues related to Free Movement (be it of persons, goods, services and Capital) can only invoked if Free Movement itself is invoked. If you're not crossing an internal EU border, Free Movement isn't invoked.Chad Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466797076721870606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-22135411397817057762018-12-01T13:49:17.827+00:002018-12-01T13:49:17.827+00:00I read "trade with EU" as trading with s...I read "trade with EU" as trading with someone that is within the EU, to be honest, and that was the basis of my point - UK companies are as much in the EU and as any other in the EU and not in the UK.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-80198028477220806942018-12-01T13:45:39.120+00:002018-12-01T13:45:39.120+00:00You admit you are talking about a different area o...You admit you are talking about a different area of EU law, and then 'based on that',reach a particular conclusion. <br /><br />I suspect that the truth of the matter is a little more prosaic. Cross border trading, even within the single market, introduces new complexities, as the single market is not fully harmonised. Regulations often allow local derogations and Directives are subject to local implementation. The single market does in fact allow for diversity and local sovereignty.<br /><br />You can't 'trade with the EU' as such. The EU is a political union. You can trade with entities outside of your own member state, which brings the added complications such as VAT issues as noted above. <br /><br />It sounds like my LLB was slightly better taught ;) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-83175055451020827152018-11-30T22:23:15.657+00:002018-11-30T22:23:15.657+00:00>>>>Is a Dutch company trading with a ...>>>>Is a Dutch company trading with a Dutch supplier, "trading with the EU"?<br /><br />Admittedly this is what we were taught in my LLB when it comes to free movement rather than trading, but when its within the same state, then it doesn't engage EU rights... So you can't use the EU Free movement rules to bring in to the UK third state family members by moving to say, Wales from England.<br /><br />Based on that, I would say no, intra-UK and intra-Netherlands trade would not be trading with the EU.Chad Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466797076721870606noreply@blogger.com