tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post3459004893583030493..comments2024-03-28T09:19:27.451+00:00Comments on RevK<sup>®</sup>'s ramblings: Mathematics does not bend to the lawRevKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-58021274113625668582016-01-20T10:19:09.978+00:002016-01-20T10:19:09.978+00:00The Reg has been dire since it stopped having NTK ...The Reg has been dire since it stopped having NTK to steal stories from I don't know why anyone takes it seriously any more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-19389614721573242542016-01-20T09:51:26.147+00:002016-01-20T09:51:26.147+00:00If you're using an https browser connection yo...If you're using an https browser connection you don't actually have the keys to be able to decrypt your own traffic, the session keys are discarded. So being served with a warrant and told to decrypt your own traffic is pointless.Owen Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890951742186614705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-50418613271190138352016-01-20T09:37:58.036+00:002016-01-20T09:37:58.036+00:00I think it is probably more of the style of the re...I think it is probably more of the style of the register to "bite the hand that feeds them!"Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11182959617649002778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-85341065626547304382016-01-20T03:03:33.947+00:002016-01-20T03:03:33.947+00:00Court issues warrant; officer serves warrant on su...Court issues warrant; officer serves warrant <i>on suspect</i> and demands access to content of encrypted communication. That would square your circle.<br /><br />Of course, I don't think that's what's intended, and IIUC the legal power already exists to compel someone to decrypt a file in their possession. (I don't know if that extends to encrypted files that you've obtained from elsewhere.) But I think it would resolve the contradiction you've highlighted.vethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13376500106064052491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-50627210180287073432016-01-20T00:15:52.072+00:002016-01-20T00:15:52.072+00:00Adrian, have you upset someone at the Register rec...Adrian, have you upset someone at the Register recently? They describe you as "the mouthy MD at niche ISP Andrews & Arnold". On the whole the Register seems to accept the government argument at face value. One wonders whether they have been "leaned upon". Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10823387395371201608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-19327850480124094312016-01-19T17:26:45.720+00:002016-01-19T17:26:45.720+00:00If the "app" were to move to Apple Messa...If the "app" were to move to Apple Messaging — by which do you mean moving the licensing of the app and the operation of the iMessage infrastructure? — I suspect that the government would simply say that Apple Messaging was a "relevant operator" within the scope of s189(2), on the basis that it provides a "public telecommunications service" per s193(11).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18427000118752159232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-78936706689872062322016-01-19T17:20:30.639+00:002016-01-19T17:20:30.639+00:00http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/19/again_were...http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/19/again_were_not_banning_cryptography_uk_gov_responds_to_activists/Gareth Bladeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109177395639328580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-5404266899136785982016-01-19T13:11:48.904+00:002016-01-19T13:11:48.904+00:00I've been watching the farce that is the snoop...I've been watching the farce that is the snoopers charter and am becoming increasingly concerned. I am most grateful for all your efforts in trying to address the issues with it and can only hope that your endeavours are successful.Hutchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518847395888673878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-92218769484932989452016-01-19T12:10:59.117+00:002016-01-19T12:10:59.117+00:00The point is that this law only applies to a "...The point is that this law only applies to a "communications provider". Apple would be the CP, Apple Messaging wouldn't. Therefore the CP wouldn't be the entity applying the encryption and couldn't be compelled to remove it.Andrew Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05559103554821540335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-62193967175838919882016-01-19T10:53:05.584+00:002016-01-19T10:53:05.584+00:00Define communications provider though? Are Apple o...Define communications provider though? Are Apple one because of iMessage? If it is, then moving the app to a new company (Apple Messaging?) just moves the problem.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963017871237474181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-70631336997121584202016-01-19T10:44:29.643+00:002016-01-19T10:44:29.643+00:00Exactly, the app applies the encryption - and they...Exactly, the app applies the encryption - and they make the app, but it would be a doddle for the company making the app to be a separate company which is not, itself, a communications provider, hence avoiding any ambiguity.RevKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369263214193333422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3993498847203183398.post-24341314125146475522016-01-19T10:42:59.989+00:002016-01-19T10:42:59.989+00:00To me I read it as the end service (facebook, twit...To me I read it as the end service (facebook, twitter etc) should be able to provide the unencrypted communication, which in a lot of cases they will be able to do. It is poorly worded though. <br /><br />I'm unsure how whatsapp and imessage would fare. Technically they haven't applied any encryption. It is the end devices that have.<br /><br />The government really need to spell out in simple terms exactly what they want, and avoid using terrorist and pedophile while doing it.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963017871237474181noreply@blogger.com